On Status Quo: He said, he said, she said, he said

Kottke said something. Eric responded. In so many words, Status Quo is okay. I like the way things are. It works as is. *

On topic, but not part of the discussion thread:
Shelley said, in a response to a comment I made: “The field needs to change.”

(Ah! I went to Shelley’s site to look up old conversation, and I see that there’s now much more there.)

Shelley said, “Diversity isn’t important. And neither are standards or accessibility.”

Anil said:

Eric: Are you saying that it’s your explicit desire to only make a conference that’s marketable to the audience you already have?

Anil also said:

Those of you who are defending this status quo are defending a culture of failure.

* UPDATE: in comment, Eric responds; he didn’t mean it according to my characterization. The item I read that drove me to click “Write new post” was the post by Anil Dash. I provided links at outset to initial ‘he said he said’ for context. My characterization of Meyer’s post was very much colored by both Shelley Powers saying Things need to Change and Anil Dash saying Status Quo ≠ good.

And now I gotta skedaddle to go to a WriteGirl event — women writers mentoring teenage girls, and so cannot continue the discussion or even think about whether or how to state what Eric said. Until later.

5 responses to “On Status Quo: He said, he said, she said, he said”

  1. Eric Meyer

    “In so many words, Status Quo is okay. I like the way things are. It works as is.”

    No. I did not say that. I’m very sorry if that’s the impression I left.

  2. Susan A. Kitchens

    Eric, yesterday I was talking about your post in an IM… the gist of the dicussion and what I got from what you said What I got from the discussion thread in response to your post — from Zeldman, who’s also part of An Event Apart is that An Event Apart has an an extremely narrow focus, the intersection of standards and design. designers and coders. People who design. And write code. Where you claimed that the speaker-worthy luminaries in that realm are all male.

    This time around, today, when composing my post, I went at it by defining status quo as I was responding more to Anil’s post and provinding previous links as context.

  3. Eric Meyer

    “Where you claimed that the speaker-worthy luminaries in that realm are all male.”

    Once again: no, I didn’t.

  4. One woman

    Eric did say that not many women’s names come up when you ask for a list of the most respected and influential people in web industry (but consider that he may have asked an already biased pool of respondents?). However, I don’t really think that’s where the focus should be. While you shouldn’t be required to meet some undefined quota of women speakers when organizing conferences, at the same time, you shouldn’t say that diversity is unimportant when organizing said conferences. I think Eric simply meant to say that diversity for the sake of diversity doesn’t always make sense. As a conference organizer, true quality and the highest standards are the most important considerations. In response I say, keep your important considerations *and* add new and challenging ones. As referenced by the commendable representation of talented women at Web Directions North, it’s absolutely possible.

  5. Susan A. Kitchens

    Eric, you’re right. I was wrong. That was Zeldman who said it, in the comment thread of your post. Sorry I got that mixed up. I’ve corrected my comment above like this to clarify.